Tuesday 14 August 2012

Re: [dcphp-dev] [job related] What are WE doing wrong?

"Also why are you discounting someone with 20 years of experience?"

I'm going to guess this is referring to a salary range, which coupled
with the reqs has resulted in the low interest. But we need more info.



On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Jayesh Wadhwani <jwadhwani@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I fully agree with Brandon's views.
>
> Also why are you discounting someone with 20 years of experience? In fact
> for this position I would prefer someone with a high level of technical
> maturity to have a meaningful liaison with NASA scientists!
>
> IMHO it seems that you are not giving this position the weight-age it
> deserves.
>
> -Jayesh
>
> On Aug 14, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Brandon Savage <brandon@brandonsavage.net>
> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> I've seen this job description a couple of times. NASA seems that it would
> be a cool place to work, so I'm equally surprised to find out that you've
> had limited interest. I have some suggestions.
>
> First, you're asking for an awful lot out of a junior person. A degree, two
> years experience, expert at HTML, CSS, JS and PHP with design skills thrown
> in. Oh, and you gotta know security, SQL and database design/administration.
> I've been doing this almost five years now, and I don't qualify based on the
> job description!
>
> You've written the job description from the perspective of the "perfect
> candidate" - the guy that can take the job today, start tomorrow and have
> your website redeveloped by next Friday. Such a candidate rarely, if ever,
> exists. So, let me ask you this: what is it that you're ACTUALLY looking
> for? My guess is that you'd be happy with someone who is qualified in some
> or most of those areas, had a few things to learn, and was motivated to
> grow. But your job description doesn't make this apparent. It's written in
> such a way to indicate that absent these skills, you may not bother
> applying. That will cut down on your applicants.
>
> Second, I think you're actually looking for a mid-level developer, not a
> junior. By definition, a junior needs a mentor. A mid-level developer can
> direct themselves. Be prepared to offer compensation commensurate with a
> mid-level salary requirement.
>
> Third, the entire JD is about what YOU need. There's not much there for what
> I will get to do, experience and enjoy. What is the team like? What is the
> environment like? Will I be stimulated? Is it exciting? Do I have freedom to
> make decisions, suggestions and an impact? Are there any neat perks?
> Obviously when you write me a check every month it's about what I provide
> you; yet developers want to feel fulfilled, involved and as though they are
> creative professionals. Check out
> http://www.ewherry.com/2012/08/the-best-recruiters-followup/ about the best
> recruiters and what they do with possible candidates.
>
> I hope this is helpful. These are my observations alone, and may not
> represent the rest of the group.
>
> Brandon
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Paul Przyborski
> <paul.przyborski@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I work for a Gov. contractor, and recently we've had a position come up
>> for a web developer. IMO, we are looking for an "educated junior" for the
>> position. In other words, someone who can come in, be self directed, and be
>> able to spearhead several projects, but we aren't looking for someone with
>> 20 years in the industry. We've had the position advertised for a while,
>> but we haven't gotten very many responses (under 10 at this point by my best
>> guess).
>>
>> So I turn to you folks - what are we doing wrong? Are we saying to much?
>> Are we saying not enough? Below is the job description.
>>
>> FYI - I'm not the HR person. I'm they guy sharing the office with this
>> new hire (kinda in the senior position, but not officially). I used to do
>> this job before moving to my current position. I enjoyed it, and I know
>> someone else would as well.
>>
>> Web Developer (Full Time)
>> Location: Lanham, MD
>>
>> Web Developer/Programmer to support work at NASA's Goddard Space Flight
>> Center in Greenbelt, MD. This position is responsible for multiple websites
>> central to the education and public outreach efforts of many NASA Earth
>> Science organizations, missions, and projects. The ideal candidate will work
>> directly with scientists and support staff to create interesting and
>> informative websites that effectively communicates research efforts and
>> findings. While part of a larger team, this position requires a well-rounded
>> set of skills, as the majority of the work is self-directed/supported.
>> Duties will include designing, developing, and testing user-friendly Web
>> applications; translating user requirements into robust and
>> consumer-friendly Web applications; contributing creative ideas and
>> development techniques; maintaining existing PHP & MySQL-based web
>> applications; and maintaining content on multiple websites using a
>> combination of static pages, commercial, and proprietary content management
>> systems.
>>
>> Requirements:
>>
>> BS or higher in Computer Science, Information Systems, Web
>> Design/Development or comparable degree/equivalent experience and 2 yrs
>> experience in commercial or government Web application development
>> programming
>> Solid track record delivering successful Web-based applications through
>> the full product life cycle
>> Excellent, software/platform-independent HTML (4&5), PHP, CSS (2&3), and
>> JavaScript/JQuery development skills
>> Up-to-date knowledge of best practices in web application security
>> Working knowledge of MySQL 5.x database design and administration, SQL,
>> and query optimization
>> Working knowledge of Photoshop and basic graphic design principles
>> Understanding of Section 508 requirements for accessibility
>> Working knowledge of Subversion or other version control systems
>> Strong written and verbal communication skills
>> Demonstrated appreciation for user experience and user interface design
>> Ability to learn quickly, self-direct on a small team, establish
>> timelines, and deliver products within deadlines
>>
>> Desirables:
>>
>> Knowledge of LINUX system administration
>> Knowledge of Apache HTTPD server configuration
>> Web server security training (GWUX/GSIP, CISSP, or equivalent)
>> Experience in user interface design, usability testing, and/or information
>> architecture development
>> Experience with Drupal and/or WordPress
>> Understanding of Ajax and similar Web 2.0 technologies
>> Understanding of object oriented programming language
>> Strong interest in NASA and earth science
>> Experience developing commercial websites for ecommerce
>>
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